It seems nowadays more and more Malays boys are hooking up with Chinese girls. Is there anything wrong with that in my opinion, well no.
Hey it’s their choice and it’s their life. But is there a cause for concern long term wise, when a growing number of our Melayu boys would rather date outside their race? Well yeah
In fact half the Malays boys whom I’m friends would only date Chinese girls. Here’s what I mostly observed about these boys who share a common trait.
Well educated, highly independent person, their family background; inter-racial marriages are common among their family and they’re from, middle to high income families.
Well I mentioned there’s a cause for concern as we have more inter-racial marriages, our very own Melayu culture might be diluted and lost along the way as each generation passes on with such inter-racial marriages.
The Japanese themselves, rich in culture, truly oppose such inter-racial marriages. That’s why their culture stood the test of time over thousands of years and will do so for many more years. They even have the term to categorize such person who married their own, Gaijin, which literally means ‘outside person’.
Yes it’s true the Malays is still a young race; marginalized at times but we still have our culture. Who here have never visited the Malay Heritage Centre? Well you should, it has plenty of historical records of our rich Malay history
I recalled watching Sepet once. I remembered a scene where the main girl character mentioned it’s about upgrading of status when these guys starts to date outside of their race. I began to wonder the rationale behind this statement
I mean what goes through these boys minds.
Probably the boys sub-consciously unknowingly thinking that by dating a Chinese girls, where the majority chinese runs the country, they might think, it might be the answer to their problems in terms of not wanting to be marginalized, excluded or improve their social status vs. economic status. Like I said, upgrading of status
Well for me I do know what goes through mine. For me, I don’t really mind dating someone who is not a Malay, but I don’t really exclude it to just one race.
To me dating is dating, simple as that. No racial bullshit issue in the mix. It’s more about self-understanding and identification.
Am I a racist then if I don’t give my blessing to my children let’s say in the future, to not date outside their race?
Hmmm well that’s another issue … it’s so complicated these days eh
YAY I’M THE FIRST HERE! WEEEhhhOOOOOOweeeeeee
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very interesting but coming from an inter-marriage parent product myself, I find it very tiresome to adhere to both cultures. I have also more than once thought the sepet line was stupid because even if your race is different, the blood that runs through your veins is red.
How different is that?
Skin colour? No prob!
use Sk to whiten or peng yourself in the sun till your tanned.
I have said many a times I won’t date a malay boy if they’re the typical mat (relak one corner goyang kaki shrug off responsibility bla bla) but in reality I think many of us are looking for someone with good characteristics.
Someone we can connect with and definitely for keeps?
In this case I feel culture comes in simply because one’s social norms shapes the individual.
yes?=D I guess that’s why I don’t really like the lepak ah type of guys. Nanti tunggu lama lama kipas tu pon tak terrepair sey.. I repair myself sua=P
Ps:Chinese people aren’t that great yeah. My relatives are bloody money minded. Koyak kocek u all nak maintain.
HAH.
pps: I make a great pseudo minah weit!=D
haha i think SK cannot help some of us who are really tanned la!
i think we all want to find someone who can connect our dots
tell me about it, i got cheena friends who are so money minded … seposen pun matters!
u’re unique per .. i bet the boys are all lining up
ahhh i bochap already lah about this subject… inter-racial/ racist or whatever lah, i had enough of this… for me, if got, then good. if dont have, nvm cos life goes on… nak date whoever or from wherever, apa2 lah… tak cerewet.
If Singaporean guys wants to go for chinese girls just to upgrade status, all i have to say is.. please upgrade yourself thoroughly first.
Shout Outs to all Singaporean Malay Single Girls – hahaha!!!! we all no more laku lah! they all think kita no status, so not up there… let’s go find someone from other countries then, just “to upgrade status” cos some of the singaporean malay single guys cannot make it lah.
(waduh!!!! touch to the heart, so bitter lah this yanni. always got something to say back!)
I like and agree with your comment..
hahah!!! :) thank you shahneeza!!
oohh laser comment .. i can sense where you’re going with this
so guys, buckup eh
that includes me :-)
i tink it’s partly cuz, most melayus if you look around now, they are branded together as mats and minahs. then u talkin abt the well educated sort of person gitu.. they kinda haf the tinking that, kalo aku hook up ngan minah, nnti minah tu tau aku pandai, ader job bagos and all then take me for granted like tt..
and bnyk ah opinion lain.. like the way i see it, theres gona be more inter-racial marriage to come.
i think you grew up with the mat-minah mentality
for my time it was minah-mat rocker … hehe
i think such stereotypes is unhealthy but then again it doesnt exist with just the malays
but do you see the cheena boys going for malay chicks in equal numbers
Ha, we should leave a much of Melayu’s stranded on a deserted island, they will reproduce and prosper, no chinese girls.
err probably we will rilex one corner too much & to our death finally
To each his own.. Cheers.. =)
yup fai, thats the best…. not to judge anybody and let them be lah. inter-racial or not or what or what or what… :) cheers!
so what’s your ‘own’ … heh, kaypoh here
my sis is dating an indian and my bro has so far only shown interest in chinese girls. but it’s not about upgrading their status. it is simply because where they are in life right now, good malay candidates are just so hard to find and they feel that they can connect better with their current non-malay peers. my sis says non-malays mostly speak better, have ambition, are confident, behave well, think along the same wavelengths and don’t carry around this “i am an underdog and the govt owes me handouts without which i cannot make it to be anything great on my own” mentality. it’s very refreshing you know, not to date someone with the underdog mentality! you can connect so much better. thus, even as i dated malay guys, i looked for those rare few with the “i will because i can” mentality.
so the question now, when is it enough to have good malay candidate
do we settle for some ethnicity when ours is not enough or do we make do with a compromised decision & lowering our expectation
at times like this, i wanna make a singles malay dating marriage blog! haha
u have the most RANDOM posts but they’re so interesting. someting to always think about.
my brother married a white girl. but i don’t think or culture has to be “diluted“…my brother, despite having an “orang luar” as a wife insists that when he has kids (when that is…i have NO idea…i’m waiting IMpatiently), he will ship them back to singapore so that they can be brought up in singapore schools and the melayu traditions so that later on, when they do move back to the US, they have not forgotten their roots and sense of belonging. i’m for inter-racial marriages. i think mixed babies grow up to be beautiful but it’s their parents who have the responsibility of instilling the values and traditions of their culture. so u could have a mly boy marrying a chinese girl but the kids growing up to know BOTH the mly and chinese culture.
i have a cousin..actually she’s NOT my cousin. stupid bitch. anyway, she married an englishmen. she has an adopted daughter who speaks only “british” english. she’s 9 and can’t speak malay and they live in KUALA LUMPUR. her daughter baca doa with a slang…she knows almost nothing abt the mly culture. so u see the difference between families and how they bring up their kids
as for the upgrading status, i don’t think that ALWAYS happens. it sometimes does that the mlys wanna “squeeze” out of the “lower” economic status….but it’s so rare. now everybody so jiwang-jiwang on the “i am in LOOOOVVEEEEE” thing that love knows racial boundaries. it just happens that they are of a diff. race. maybe sometimes, we’re so sick and tired of our own race and their antics, we look elsewhere…who knows. personal choice.
as for me….i tunggu melayu….tak dapat cari….HAHAHAH
haha i just blog wat i ponder la .. and my mind do wander alot!
maybe we malays are diversifying … celup sana-sini maybew becoming a norm for malays
your family is so so mixed seh …
i bet some putera melayu will come in his kuda one day for you .. no worries
The Japanese oppose inter-racial marriages? I had no idea about that, I thought they didn’t mind actually. But I don’t know that many mixed-Japanese people so it might be true.
yup do a search … its quite well know term
I know of two jap-malay family, both of which are close to my family. Among Japanese themselves, yes there are like those mentioned by Sha, those Gaijin or social stigma thingy…But it all boils down to the parent’s/in-law’s understanding. After all, it is their child’s happiness at stake. Have to give and take.
Anyways, I am gonna hook up with a hot French girl for the sake of diversification. lol.
Find another Genevieve from Rush Hour 3 lah :-)
haha … i was thinking that too!
sometimes love of a child gives in to cultural obligations
french hottie hur … how about the auntie making french fries. thats hot
I prefer Hindi girls. Chinese second, and ang-moh, third. Malay girls?? Not that I under-rated them la, but I just dun understand why I can’t accept Malay girls as my soulmate.
If there are only Malay girls left in the planet, I will still re-think whether to be with them or not. Am I cruel? LOL.
I think you better listen back to that Othman Hamzah’s song first.
It’s just a song. I have my reason(s) for disliking Malay girls to be my life partner. Hah.
tough choice of words … yes thats your preference bro
“Siapa bilang gadis melayu tak menawan…” i think the lyrics goes that way.. anyway, whoever you want to marry, it is up to you.. I have seen many malay boys in my JC with hot chinese girlfriends.. to me, yes their may culture “diluted”.. but thier religion also like “diluted”.. for me,whoever you marry, uncle, jangan sesat agama..
race vs religion
aha, another issue … another topic! next time :-)
Yah that’s so blardy true. Marry whoever you want, as long as tak sesat agama. Okay man, I’m off to France for SEP! lol
wah you’re jetsetting to places man!
exchange program?
controversial issue. but this had been going on for quite awhile. only now its increasingly prominent.
I think the real reason why malay guys tak pandang malay girls because they think we’re not intellectually-stimulating or sth. This peeves me off acually. Wat, dun want to speak-think-act Malay oreadi? Too smart or too rich isit?
Oklah, sum of them say its looove, looove transcends race blahblah. But hey… admit that majority goes seeeeking for partners of different race to elevate themselves in the social class. I’m not a racist but stop it seh.
Siapa cakap tak pandang! Kita tak pandang minahs aje!
so who is not minah and who isn’t?? u know i don’t look like minah or behave like one in public, but when im angry and erupt my volcano anger, i sound like minah.. cos minah always sound like that even though when they are not angry…
so how about mats???
alamak yanni dah naik darah ni…
ni dah pasal gender and races ni… :s
aku tak nak geng korang semua ah!!!! apa ni pompan melayu lah, pompan cina lah, pompan mat saleh lah, pompan mama lah… gi belah ah.. (oooo that so minah… then apa tak minah ni.. when speaking RIGHT & Proper ENGLISH with an accent is it??? sarcasms forever ah… )
Alah kita semua tahu minahs tu ape kan :)
Buat diam-diam aje uh…
actually eh…this minah subject is very touchy. u can’t say a girl is minah because she, for examples, dyes her hair, or plucks off alll of her eyebrows off and redraw it, or that she smokes/drinks or that she’s so-called uneducated (this one VERY controversial). cuz we actually have decent girls who dye their hair, or smokes. it’s a bad habit but it shouldn’t be a deciding factor that she’s unattractive or she’s automatically a minah. EVERY mly girl has the ability to be a minah at any one point in her life.
and yanni is right. what about mats? we have mat rock, mat skateboard, mat rempit, mat moto, mat kental…and all the other “mat stereotypes”
and u can’t say “tak pandang”…when u say that, it says something about a mly boy looking down on his own race.
u basically opened a can of worms that can be turned into something very ugly.
Hey muneera, Saya tak pandang minahs because I don’t like their attitude. Kindly do not shortsight it by saying I am looking down on my own race.
And I didn’t define “minah”, so yah. I have my own definition of minah, but that’s besides it.
i think we all know lah mana minah mana tidak… actually entah eh. hard to judge lah… some can be a minah, who knows minah educated rich spoilt brat girl… whose bank account got kaching kaching, who is a degree holder…
gd night khai! gd night shah! gd night everyone! story over! tomorrow monday!!! ah fark lah monday again!!! i hate it!!!
Eh belum tidur? Hhehhe… okay goodnight!
My JC friends at first thought i was a mina when i am not even a malay! they said that cos i wear eyeliner and they think only mina wear eye liner..so yeah, how you define who is mina? not all malays are minas or mats …sheesh! stereotype only..
i wasn’t saying YOU were looking down on a minah…but in the general sense of a “mly guy”….do not get defensive.
but even without ur comment of “minahs”…this topic is a can of worms waiting to explode and it’s easy for anyone to get a little upset abt it….
Haiyoh muneera what are you babbling about sia? You’re going around in circles!
Hehe and I’m not upset about it, I’m just amazed at how girls can be so empowered over it. And if the “mat” topic is really bothersome, erm by all means go lay the table. lol.
Heh.. Trust Sha to have a can of worms topic waiting to be exploded here :-)
dah explode ke? lets run before it explode… ;p
like i said earlier, they might think it isn’t but subconsciously we are ..’upgrading’ of status
like the slums of argentina, the poor keep on marrying the poor, continuing the social-cultural of poor among them
maybe for us, we want to break away from our very own ‘slums’
Personally I’m also sometimes concern about the ‘dilution’ of the Malay culture amidst all this interracial pair-ups. I’m all for the ‘preservation’ of our ‘Malayness’, nvm if some people wud call me a racist for that. But what to do…thats de way things are. People find it sensible& meaningful to form relationships wth likeminded people; those who share the same charactertraits, views, perceptions, likes & dislikes, etc, & often such people happen to be of a different race.
I dont mean to sound like a minah kawin-kawin, but dating is one thing, whilst what u want out of the date is another thing. While many Malay guys just date nonMalay gals, here’re still many who eventually marry Malay gals. Of course, a whole lot of them, (including one or two of my frens) get married to nonMalay gals (not restricted to chinese gals) anyway. It’s easy to say how one shldnt be distracted by whatever racial bullcrap when he/she wants to date, but if marriage is involved, sometimes race can be a factor. For e.g, most Chinese in Sg are nonMuslims, & if the Malay guy wants to marry his nonmuslim chinese gf, we know which one of them has 2 convert to which religion. In contrast, if in the first place both partners are both Malay/Muslims, or de guy is Malay and de gal is Indian/Muslim, then they wud have one less issue to crack their brains over.
i find among our current youth we’re not all up in arms for such ‘preservation’
i think the malay leaders need to focus on the next batch of malay younger gen … haha
If there’s anyone better to be asked abt why they prefer 2 date Chinese gals, then it’s those Malay guys who date chinese gals. The main question wud be Why? How come? Kenapa? Weishenme?
Is it because they view chinese gals as being ‘more fun’ than Malay gals? (i quote fr some guys: “Malay gals very ‘boring’…dono hw to dress nicely, even when they’re not wrapped up in tudong, they dono hw to dress sexily, unlike the chinese…& chinese gals…can touch touch, hug and kiss in public, Malay gals still conservative to certain extent”)
Is it because Chinese gals are supposedly more ‘openminded’ than Malay gals? And if yes, in what ways?
Is it because Malay gals are supposedly academically inferior to Chinese gals? (guess dis wud apply to Malay guys who’re relatively highly educated & feel they shld date someone wth de same level of education, ambition & aspiration as them & sumhw “Malay gals dont fit the bill”)
Hehehe i cud go on and on wth de questions but basically how many Malay guys wud actually give honest answers to those Qs?
i’ve dated outside my race and you’ll be surprise to find the difference in dating let’s say and indian vs a chinese. both have different cultural upbringing, i find it a breathe of fresh air lets say vs a typical minah
haha, yes i’ve dated a minah!
but i’ve also dated a malay brainiac – yes i do agree they’re short of demand here. if you wanna date one, find at NUS or NTU, hehe
maybe i myself can be considered as the malay dudes who want to upgrade my status, well from my POV, i’m not, but subconsciously maybe i am
who knows … i still cant put two and two together on this issue, just a rambling on my observation about our malay boys
There ws once, i ws joking wth a female fren about dating caucasian guys..and that female fren teased me:”Got no more Malay guys around is it?”
To me,her teasing ws simple but thought-provoking. Of course i know there’re plenty of Malay guys around in Sg, but many of which are being ‘snatched by’ nonMalay gals, particularly Chinese gals. I said back to my fren, teasingly, “Look around, do u SEE any decent Malay guys left? They’ve all gone to the cheenas lol!”
I agree with one of the previous comments by another commentor…sumtin about how it’s hard to find ‘good Malay guys’ these days…Maybe i’ve been unlucky, but some of de Malay guys i casually went out with…they have this “I-know-i-can-do-better-but-i-dont-want-to-besides-if-u-can-accept-me-like-this-why-shld-i-do-more” Attitude. I dont mean to look down, but do u notice just HOW MANY Malay guys here are ‘stuck’ or choose to stick to being mere bluecollar workers?
B4 u all start accusing me of looking down on such occupations, pls note that it’s not de occupations that’s the issue,but the person having those occupation. . Some Malay guys apparently admit to being ‘lazy & cant be bothered 2 wrk harder’ and are very satisfied wth their measely pay, nevermind that they have to work all day long, not much rest days & @ de end of de day STILL bring home very little dough. They live day by day, often wth insufficiency, KNOW they’ve 2 work harder 2 survive in life but just CHOOSE not to. Some even have de cheek 2 say they liv by de mantra that they find it ok to have not enuf money, as long as whatever money they have is halal.
Perhaps, its the mentality. And if they are suppose to work harder to survive in life, will there be time for a relationship to materialise in the latter stages of life ?
Is the lady in question willing to wait for him, say for a further 5 years down the road ? Can SHE handle the pressure, from the society, relatives, etc of not settling down ?
i know a couple of great malay lads … haha ladies, contact me! keke, i intro
i think you should cast your net further, if singapore is insufficient, there’s still malaysia and indonesia
if u’re looking for malay grads, in local uni only 20% of academic cohort gets thru uni & of 20% of that, 34:1 is malay. yeah malay grads a few in between … i don’t know if they’re snatched by cheena girls however
wah!! so many comments already.. so i make it short and sweet… wahahahahahahha
to me, its FATE lah… if happens that FATE brings to people together of different race, no matter what religion, than so it be..
to me, what matter MOST… is that when one truly find his / her soul mate, no matter what race, color or religion, they will have a happy ending…
eddy so sensible guy… i geng you and fai and shahneeza and whoever else yang tak sound so up there* only for now in this entry… :P
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to yanni and katak,
yes… love sometimes reach us in many unexpected places…
so who knws rite??? ;)
so agree with all of u.. cis.. who are we to judge what other people do and want anyway right?!
so lomantic ah … but i don’t believe in fate that much bro
for me, if i want that gurl, i pursue it
i wanna have a happy ending too
I mean, yeah, it’s important for your earnings to be halal and Godblessed, but dont these people know that they’re SUPPOSED 2 work harder if they have de capacity to do so, especially if it’s also for their benefit? The halal issue shld not be an excuse!
I’m not saying ALL malay guys are like de ones in my ‘dating experience’, but i DARE say many Malay guys have all those negative attitudes which lead people to say that it’s hard to find good Malay guys.
Some of de Malay guys i met before actually FREAKD OUT when i say i’m a Poly Diploma- holder (& by now studying 4 yet another Diploma in NIE). Sumhow they tink i’m ‘too high’ 4 them since they’re from ITEs, which lead them to feel intimidated, insecured, & that i’m trying to show off or step on their heads. On de other end of de spectrum, some of them were damn happy because it meant they have a chance to ‘live off’ me. WTF!
the malays have always been laid back ever since our nelayan days
i mean we’re historically culturally like that, so if we’re like that back then, i think it goes the same now, if not we would have been on par with the cheena imports, doing business, running shops, etc
i think only a minority seeks greater glory
so my advise, seek these minority. they exist. i think in NIE got plenty kan
With regards to equal educational qualifications, I feel that Malay guys WANT to date Malay girls, but it’s either the girls are already snapped up, or they are stuck up. JUAL MAHAL.
I feel that in uni school, the guys are always sourcing for a potential relationship. You gotta admit, it should be about time isn’t it? You need to give time to test the relationship, and if it fails, you gotta restart, and all that takes time.
The Malay girls however, think they are precious gemstones. So when we woo them, they make life difficult for us. All guys get bored after some time, so the brain then tells them to not waste their time with Malay girls, and that they are better off by taking chances with other races.
I don’t think Malay guys are picky. And educational differences don’t mean much to a guy, but it would be the opposite for a girl. We wannt our girls, but do our girls want us?
jual mahal is the word.. hahahah!!! tak kan nak terus jual murah… ;P
What you just mention here is only partially true.
Sometimes, one needs to wait in order to discover the true gem that have befallen on them.
Macam those anti-wrinkle/dimple creams out there.. You can’t expect instant results immediately upon using them.
For some, it takes weeks/months before they realise how fortunate they are to have that woman in their life.
Of course, if you cannot wait, then its too bad.
yeah call it an investment of sorts
i think we’re just trying out to test the ‘water’ of sorts
if cheena is compatible
surprisingly my dad was ok with it when i was with one
hows yours?
Hehehe…i ws just abt to comment somemore. Hmm..wth regards to khairulneezam’s comment…similarly, khairul…we want our malay guys, but do they want us? (And hence “Malay guys prefer to date Chinese gals”)
Then again, as many of us know, ultimately, @ de end of everything, it’s all up to fate, whether we like it or not. For me, i’m still looking for my Malay Guy, or rather, ‘waiting for’? The uni, or any tertiary institution for that matter, can be tricky sometimes. (Somemore i’m in NIE–so many GALS instead..and it’s beside NTU–many CHINESE guys…wait people think i mengada-ngada carik chinese guy..)Haha, dono la hor…
Come over NUS la and promote yourself. I know of a few good single Malay guys.
ooh my turn … go over the bridge to NTU la. ada malay lelaki ni, waiting
hey voeg, i notice that NTU has quite a number of malay guys, even more than NUS! hehehehe… more and more over the couple of yrs…
i haven’t really noticed this trend, but come to think of it, i know of at least 3 malay fellas who are hooked up with chinese/other race girls. and that’s saying a lot, cos that’s 3 out of the grand total of 4 malay guys whom i personally know. =_= anyway, that wld explain the dearth of eligible malay guys! lol…
i agree with some of voeg’s points – perhaps these guys think that malay girls are too conservative for them? maybe these guys aren’t the religious sort? :P and are malay girls really ‘jual mahal’ with the malay dudes? this one, im not sure too.
but seen in a positive light, these interracial marriages can be a good thing – diversification of the gene pool. homogenized populations can be a problem – certain inherent genetic problems (undesirable traits, predisposal to certain diseases etc etc) are simply propagated and ampiflied with every generation. this is esp a big deal in spore, cos malays are but a small grp of pple, and a lot of pple are related to one another in some way or another. :)
but yeah, kinda sad if ANYONE were to exclude one or many races simply based on racial prejudice/preference when looking for their soulmate – you might be missing out on the ONE. ^_^ and if interracial marriages had never happened, there wdn’t be me. :P thk god it wasn’t a big deal with my dad or his family. :) :)
well from my observation, the malay dudes from engin faculty are sikit, bu i believe the postgrad in NIE are more.
yeah thats my whole point totally, the exclusion … i say dating world is so fun, why exclude kan
good to know, your family approve of such diversification
my best buddy was reading this entry a few moments back. and he got super-emo because it reminded him of his ex-girlfriend who happens to be a Chinese.
kesian dia..haiz
alalah so kesian ur friend, come meh i pujuk.. wakakakak!!! sorry just kidding ya! :P
alahai timang dia
i date chinese man, because i like lor. nothing to do with all those bull load of crap about upgrading the status. but at the end of the day, i would like to marry a malay dude. u dont have to teach a malay singaporean the malay culture. but it will take u years to teach someone who is not. just a suggestion, if u ever go into the dating scene again, never date a white girl. they’re so lazy. they make you men cook! unless you dont mind doing the cooking, then by all means.
yeah when you plunge into such relationship, be prepared for such didik
btw, i have to add… guys these days… would rather go for girls with the looks. right right? dont u dare say tidak! because korang tak akan pandang sekali pon kepada seorang wanita gemok/ tidak lawa. walaupun korang tu sendiri muka koyak dan gemok.
and those who still disagree and say ‘but my gf is fat and ugly what…”… then i have this to say brudder… how many slim and pretty girls have dumped/rejected you before u started dating this fat spare tyre?
woaahhh.. you’re extremely brunt about it aye ? :-)
depends on individuals
to me a pretty malay lady appeals as much to me as a cheena , punjab, etc one
You know at times you gotta reflect and ask yourself how blardy racist some people can be. Shocking. And apparently we are harmonious-living SPoreans. My ass really. Whether you are a Malay, Chinese or Indian, black or white and marrying someone from another race or whether you are a Mat or Minah marrying a more successful counterpart it really does not matter. SHould not matter really.
What matters is what your heart desire and what you and your partner think is best. Don’t gve any bull-crap about protecting whatever culture or the difficulty in inculcating your culture for the sake of your partner. Look we all come from different cultures and backgrounds. It’s all about striking the balance. You think your culture is a big deal then what about the culture of others? Only a muppet would find striking a balance between cultures tiresome and too much of a bother.
I honestly think Malays should not worry about Malays dating or marrying other races. Dating someone of another race shouldn’t make you less of a Malay or whatever race you are. Not unless you immersed yourself too much in that other race and find yourself lost. Only yourself to blame then.
And Shah yes you are right. One should date irregardles of race. If there is any race we should be concern about it’s the blardy human race. Period.
And please please la. Mat and minah exists in the Malay community whether you like it or not. How the hell you define and distinguish them is entirely up to you. Whether they are good or bad for the society and race is highly debatable. Quit slagging off each other on this issue. There’s a mat and minah in each of you as much as there’s that bit of Ah Lian and Ah Beng in every Chinese. Wether you like it or not. And yes there is an Arab Dogol in me as well as much as I would contest it.
Heheh.. Hats off to the Armchair Critic :-)
yes the arm chair critic really hit the nail on the head…
anyway… on another note.. edroos.. are you really close to ami dol?!
culture changes through the times and we gotta adapt i guess. we can never know where its heading
and how such mixed marriages comes into play in the long run we’ll never know
of course there’s a variation of mats in the malay community, got smart mat, got slack mat too. so the terms is quite broad and typically people would bundle the term collectively and unjustly
yup i agreed, your underlying message is simple. it does not matter who you date
ler.. i was reading the whole comments, and people have been talking abt mats and minahs…
WAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH..
tat’s like super funny!!!
mats and minahs exist in every KAUM KERABAT MELAYU… you can be the MAT sarap… she can be the MINAH kental… and of course the nerdy MAT… the MINAH speaking LONDON….
yes yes..
we have our own label of what we think mat and minahs is about..
but hor.. WE ARE SO OFF THE TOPIC!!! wahahahahahahahahhaha…
kalau lah SI MAT, dapat jumpa dengan seorang AH LIAN… and they fall in love… then good for that mat lah…
if a minah, happens to like some AH BENG… so be it lah… let them get married… i dont see anything wrong a mat marrying a lian or a minah kawin dgn ah beng… or achong or muthu or sammi… saper saper jer boleh…
the most important thing, HAPPY… kalau dah HALAL, semua NYE SAH!!!!!
Thank u eddy for making it clearer… no matter how cliche it is really true that love transcends race unless you are still living in the 19th century and you dun mind your parents choosing your soulmate for you in the name of preserving traditions and culture.
tapi dalam sume MAT, Mat Salleh dun qualify eh!!!
yes, mat salleh tak termasuk dalam gologan mat mat yang sewaktu dan sedarjat dgn nye!!!
wahahahahahahhhahahahahaha
like i mentioned in my first comment. kalau ada, ada lah. kalau takda, takda lah.. its fated and life still goes on… whoever we end up with, we must be contented and treasure it.. we all got so much comment then end up shah malas nak layan kita.. cos some of us so off the topic and some of us get carried away… hahahah!!!
what about chinese guys who dates malay girls eh?
then like that cicak, you got to make an entry about it. then we will invade ur blog and drop comment like nobody business.. quick!!! :)
yup blog it … this one i dunno
My boyfriend used to date a Chinese girl, I used to date a Chinese guy. So get the drift.. hahahhaha… Now, my boyfriend is saying that I’m getting too Chineseeeee to be a malay… Ahh.. NTU’s fault probably. hehe
now the sch at fault … haha
sometimes i wonder what triggers you to dabble in such a topic. but does it really matter what race you marry?! Does it matter why you marry that race?! It is up to the individual to do what they wanna do. Its like asking why does someone prefer white chocolate to dark chocolate or milk.. ho ho ho.. In the end you are not the one to have to deal with what ever issue that may arise.. they are.. so be accepting and let people do whatever they want to.. for whatever the reason!!
err i just do .. haha
That’s life man. Whatever you do wherever you go, sure people will judge you. Like if a (chinese/malay) lady, go out with white man they say you SPG.
Haiya, they say love is blind. So doesn’t matter what race you marry or date. Like what most have said, as long that you are happy.
haha they are SPG!
ok i’m being shallow here
I was a teenager back in the 80’s. Back then, the mat melayu mentality on dating Chinese girl was because the mina melayu ni susuh nak ‘dapat’. My sincerely apology to the non-malay girls, am not saying that the non-melayu girls are easy to get, but these was the perception back then. This is my personal experience lah. 20 years down the road all these mat-mat am sure dah jadi pakmat pakmat lahh. Somethime I wonder, what kind of values all these pak-pak mat have injected into bringing up their childrens. It is not my business to think beyond what the mat –mat Melayu Boleh, can do.
Pokok nya mat, korg jangan ‘asal boleh’ sudah lah.
Race is of no issue, siapa pon you all nak date, whatever pon your reasons (dan alasan) selalu nya yg menjadi kemelut pd ibu bapa ia lah bila anak2 bertukar agama dan membuang agama asal kerna nak ikot lelaki & wanita yg bukan sebangsa. (assuming melayu = islam, assuming ibu-bapa perihatin soal agama).
Tapi zaman “melayu boleh’ ni..istilalah yg tak dapat di elakkan terjadi ialah ‘melayu asal boleh’ ni yg makchiqe takut nii..harr harr!
Ish..kan, kan, si makchique ni dah membebel!!!
Great job what you did here Sha, keep it up!
Peace to all =)
so its a matter of previous malay doings eh from your POV, interesting
so to say what we do now, will echo through later on in the years. since we’ve plenty of malay boys dating chinese girls, i think the future, the norm of mix marriages will be a common thing with the values of current malay gen passing down to their child
thanks for visiting my blog
80′s i was still in my pubescent days not dating however
omg this entry and all the comments made me laugh!!! hahaha!!!!
no more laser comments?
That was a very very interesting topic, as much as I agree with it, I might have to say I slightly disagree. I my self am Eurasian, a cross breed. I’m middle eastern, Polynesian, French and lots of stuff… But I identify as a mixed ethnic person.
And if you actually think about it, what is Malay? Malay is a huge mix anyway! A old history of crossbreeds! From Indian/malay to Arab/malay from Chinese/malay… And what are the REAL malay? Nothing like the ones we think of, so, it’s all mix anyway isn’t it :D
I’m proud to be a Eurasian.. have the best of both worlds and share both cultural qualities.
Wouldn’t it be boring if everyone was just ONE breed,?
Mixed … You are indeed unique Dakota
As for the issue, you just have to be here to notice the trend. It’s common practice.
I’m not against such dates, but it’s more of a mindset kind of occurance that result in Malays more interested in dating Chinese chicks at a sub-conscious level
I’ve dated Chinese chicks myself, so let’s say I’ve quite a detailed perspective on this, despite my aloofness, haha
thanks for commenting dude :)
Wow I just passing buy and read about this interesting topic. Are you talking about Malay Singapore. Here at M’sia I never seen any Malay guy that date chinese girl maybe becoz the money thing. But it a trend here that Malay gurl that date or married outside their races. I myself dated french guy. So Malay Sg. gurl you should find someone outside your races & not just waiting for Malay guys anymore.
Hi there
Yeah my observations is of Malay Singaporeans. I forgot to include that
Wow, so there’s a trend among MY girls. I’m part Indon, is that considered foreign? You think any MY girl will date me then. keke, just kidding
well just marry the one you love, regardless of skin color I say!
Welcome to my blog :)
I myself dated Chinese girls before… in one case, it’s the girl wooing me.
And I believe that race/culture shouldn’t be a factor in any relationships. “Biar mati anak, jangan mati anak”? We’re talking about human rights here haha… but yeah, I’ll date anyone except for Malay girls. Bad experiences with them…
wow that must be great, its the other way round now :)
well not all malay girls are like that but its your choice, go for one that you’re comfortable with
oops, the proverb should be “biar mati anak, jangan mati adat”… anyway, i’m just being random
haha, yeah i was wondering wat proverb was earlier, this one now correct! :)
This article mentioned Malays boys who want to date Chinese girls. You see, at least you are all Asians. As a white man who is seriouly got involved in “yellow fever”, I feel that it’s more difficult to date Chinese girls. I am always enchanted by long black hair and bright black eyes and appreciate the inner beauty of Asin girls, especially Chinese girls. There are not many Chinese girls around me. So I can only tend to dating sites, like cncupid.com/photo/romance, chinesepeoplemet.com etc, to seek my Chinse brides. Wow, it’s really wonderful to date Chinese girls…. though just via internet!
Hi Barry, I hope you’ll find your gurl
Well here it’s becoming more and more common sight for mixed dates/marriages, getting more accepted by all
Hey I just happen to pass by this blog.. N I found tis topic interesting. My fren was recently commenting abt how more n more Indian guys have started dating Chi gals cos they think their status will be improved. Personally I never tot it dat way.. I just felt dat may be u noe, Love is blind, so they did not take e fact tat their Gf belongin to a diff race is a big issue.. N c’mmon Chi is e majority in S’pore. But noticing more carefully, I realised dat a couple of Indian guys have never dated Indian gals tho they knew many… They have only dated Chi gals.. So may tis be true.. I dunno cos I have never bothered askin.. I guess tis issue is not only unique to Malays but Indians too… But well, I still agree w Edroos(e arm chair critic.)
That’s interesting
Yeah I know a few Indians classmates who are into Chinese gurls
Both my paternal and maternal great grandparents are pure chinese and siamese.Except my bro and I look arabic…Huh??where does that come from?Probably some promiscousity frm one our ancestors with the arab traders in the olden days huh?Hahaa
My point is…Yes…I’m a malay but that’s just a classification. A way for a human being to organise our society and mind’s comprehension and organising of things(yes,I’m also a future scientist)
Malay….doesn’t really mean anything these days…we’re a mix breed.I bet if you trace back our lineage, most of our ancestors are CHINESE!Especially us kelantanese.
So, why the fuss abt guys dating chinese girls?Is like u disciminating against ur own ancestor if u condone it,u know.
My ex only dates chinese girls(exception to me)
At the end of the day we are all just human beings and whay matters is the path and behavious that we choose that’s important.So, go on date outside ur race fellas. Miya.A ‘malay’ girl.
Both my paternal and maternal great grandparents are pure chinese and siamese.Except my bro and I look arabic…Huh??where does that come from?Probably some promiscousity frm one our ancestors with the arab traders in the olden days huh?Hahaa
My point is…Yes…I’m a malay but that’s just a classification. A way for a human being to organise our society and mind’s comprehension and organising of things(yes,I’m also a future scientist)
Malay….doesn’t really mean anything these days…we’re a mix breed.I bet if you trace back our lineage, most of our ancestors are CHINESE!Especially us kelantanese.
So, why the fuss abt guys dating chinese girls?Is like u disciminating against ur own ancestor if u condone it,u know.
My ex only dates chinese girls(exception to me)
At the end of the day we are all just human beings and what matters is the path and behaviour that we chose that’s important.So, go on date outside ur race fellas. Miya.A ‘malay’ girl.
Hi
Thanks for visiting
Yes I know our ancestors has their roots in china
The entry at http://www.sha.tc/category/malays-melayu
:)
It’s unnerving when people are lopsided. The world should be seen from as many perspectives as possible cos the spectrum of colours make up one light. I hardly see a Malay guy with a Chinese girl. I doubt a Chinese girl would be interested in a Malay guy UNLESS he is just a better alternative with good personality or well-off compared to another male Chinese choice. Usually male Chinese win hands down because they have better employtment and long-term stability. Generally speaking, Singapore’s environment is just not conducive for Malay men to prosper and succeed without “some help”.
On a different note, there are in fact MORE Malay girls who are dating outside their race. Most likely the guy is a caucasian, middle-eastern or even Chinese. Unlike the Malay guys, these Malay girls are more likely to MARRY those non-Malays. I even met a tudung-wearing universdity-educated SINGAPOREAN girl who is dating a diploma-educated Indian national. ASK any tertiary educated Malay girl and you’d find that she is likely to agree that these days Malay girls are finding malay guys less and less attractive because of social standing etc. compared to guys of other races. This evidence alone explains why Chinese girls would less likely find malay guys attractive.
If a Chinese girl DO find a malay guy attractive it is usually 1) simply a “last resort” and I find that funny ;)
2) Malay guys have better sense of humour
3) Swayed by the charms and wiles (unheard of before) publicized by recent media like tv which I cannot mention names of “cool” popular Malay icons.
Whatever it is those Chinese girls have admirable courage, security and independent thought that really signifies that times have changed IF THE TOPIC OF THIS DISCUSSION IS TRUE.
Sometimes I wonder about blogs that appear from Singaporeans. They sound suspiciously as if propaganda, social-engineering and manipulation is taking place just to create stereotyping and stigma to be attached to certain unfortunate groups. The idea it seems is to direct the majority’s attention to achieve a certain objective. Malay-phobia perhaps? Who knows? Live and let live I say. Else do proper research and be more observant before making social comments and spark a controversy. Singaporeans should just stick to the pledge that we learn at school or just let common sense and an open mind prevail.
Hey guys!I’m a pure Malay and I’m very proud of my own kind. Oh and by the way Im from Malaysia. In Malaysia, we try our best not to marry Chinese especially…it’s not the kind of mixed blood that most Malays here are proud of, and if we do mixed with Chinese we prefer to not tell anyone…As for me and lotsa my girlfriends, we’d rather end up being with a Malay or other citizens of the world Indians, Europeans etc except for Chinese because there is a thinking here that you get your blood dirty or your child wont be attractive and exotic look if you are mixed with Chinese. Even when someone tanned wants to be fair skinned so bad they dont wanna be yellow fair but pale reddish kinda fairness but nowadays, we don’t buy whitening products as much because we know that tanned and darker skin is much more sexy and beautiful and suits our features best..maybe just use it for the sake of to even out our skin tone a bit….So to all Malay Singaporeans, if the boys are looking for Chinese ladies, of which I don’t find them attractive in any ways even if they wear micro mini skirt they still dont look sexy, but the Malays in Singapore (I was there quite a few times) are still much more exotic and sexy with your tanned skinned and voluptuous body, I bet you can get any good quality guys you want. Even the Minah’s are much more beautiful and exotic looking than the upper class so called Chinese..so don’t feel insecure SINGAPOREAN MALAY GIRLS, U R MUCH MORE HOTTER THAN THE CHINESE GIRLS..JUST WITH A SIMPLE T U ALREADY LOOK SEXY!
That’s all just bullshit. I’m a Malaysian too and Most Chinese-Malay mixes are much better-looking and more exotic than the pure Malay. Get your blood dirty? Sorry but If u ask me, i’d rather say that it’s actually the opposite.. it’s Malays blood that will pollute the Chinese gene (sorry if i offended anyone). As for Malays with Chinese blood, it actually makes the Malay gene better, but sadly the same thing can’t be said for the Chinese side. Actually, a lot of good-looking Malays are mixed blood (which they’re not aware of). And most of the time, i notice that most of those good-looking Malays around me normally have fair skin and less flat noses. I’m sorry again to say this but having lived in Borneo since i was born, most of the Malays here are unmixed and not many of them are good-looking.
But then again it’s just my own opinion and observation.
Beauty lies in the eyes of the beholder, dear…
I prefer malay girl.Because malay sex is better than chinese girl.But, Malay girls always open back door to the other guys.Well, just fuck what ever you feel great.
Hi Steven
It all boils down to sex, for us guys.
You’re not the first person telling me that.
Man being a mix blood myself i say all this is bull crap, why? Why cause Mix races has been happening for centuries, u think malays started out the same as malays nowadays? hell no malays alrdy are a bit of a mix of thai, chinese etc. Wondering about no more ‘pure malays’ in the future is another step towards being the new hitler, hell man may as well become hitler if u dont want mix races.
I think maybe chinese girl wear more fashionable clothes than Malay girl and they look more glamour than malay that why melayu guy like them. Also definition pretty for asian is u have white skin and most malay are tanned so maybe this one reason malay guy like them..
Just browsed through this issue n i was like “whoaa!!!”. Interracial marriage/ coupling is not THAT much but we can accept it here in Malaysia. has its own pros n cons, depending on how one handles it.
Somewhere somehow, this issue makes me recall my old days in Uni when i did my bachelors degree. 75% students were girls (tht moment i thought, where did all the guys go?). n in my class, the ratio of malay & chinese was 1:1. Only had <10 malay guys there.. kinda sedih that time, eheheh.. When i did my MSc, even worse. The ratio of malay girl to malay guy was like 20:1.
The problem with most Malaysian Malay girls, we could hardly find suitable candidate for our husband to be laaa… many of us r smart, educated & hv good career; but maybe we r not THAT street smart. Even at Uni level pun dah susah for us to find THE ONE, outside campus life lg laaa payah.
Most Malay guys here r still holding to the ol’ skool thoughts (from my prev experience only, maybe not applicable to all. karang i kena ban pulak). girls gotta listen to them & they could hardly accept girls r better than them in terms of financial & education. I have several male chinese & indian bestfriends. I found that they do have good qualities which r desirable by most girls.
Personally, am not against interracial coupling/ marriage laa… Just gotta be careful when it comes to religion.
Anak Melayu Blog is Singoporean I think.. memang susah nak jumpa laki melayu yang setaraf aku sanggup membujang seumur hidup pun takper.
Me? Yeah I’m Singaporean.
Personally, i dun really mind about the girl’s skin colour or race. girls will always be girls..they will nag ..
.and nag..and nag..well..its normal . my galfren can have green or blue skin..as long she is a real woman.in fact ,
i dun mind to have an alien girlfren from outerspace!!,..but honestly speaking, the chinese have these
‘The Fair skin is supreme from dark skin’ mentality..remember?..not being a racist..but hey,that’s the fact..
u can see the prove here ,both in Malaysia and Spore.go figure..anyway,Malay gal for me.if u guys(in spore) could really
open ur eyes and ears,u would notice how exotic our malay gals are..regardless their figures…
Chinese gf will upgrade ur status?..r u kidding me?where the hell u guys got this idea from? dun u think its just another
racial propaganda from ‘them’?..just like whitening product/cosmetic that says’Fair is beautiful’?.. just another propaganda..
a totally BS…well, like i said before, they have these ‘Fair Skin is supreme over dark skin’ mentality..
and please keep in mind that, ‘they’ keep insulting our Malay gals as ‘easy-for sex’ , ‘wild-party-gals’,sluts and many
more terms..so what r we goin to do about it? are we goin to shut our ears and let our gals being insulted,like always?
To K-E:
There should be more malay man like you honestly. a malay girl wouldn’t have a hard time falling in love with you.
I’ve always been told that i was fair ‘for a malay’ and it kinda really irritates me. What?only chinese girls can be fair? My bestfriend is as white as snow. And not yellow white but pinkish white and she is a malay. A gorgeous one, with big almond eyes and sharp features.
And there are other friends who are not as fair, but their features are exquisite. Most of the ppl in my area are like that. They are hot! Some have hazel eyes.
Yes, chinese girls have their fair beauty but that doesn’t mean ppl should give in to the typical stereotype or u’ll b missing things tat r more important.
I am currently dating a gorgeous and gentlemanly north indian. Even if his culture also values fairness, not once does he mention to me that was his criteria 4 choosing me. I feel lucky! Maybe the malay guy can take a leaf out of his book?xx
im a chinese. pure chinese. look mixed though. no idea why. dark brown hair and big brown eyes. hell where do i get that from but haha i feel lucky though. kekez. i dated many guys. all chinese. and never expected i wud fall crazily in love with a..malay. hmm, he’s mixed lah tuh..malay with chinese and he is hot. very. good body..wahaha! but i dont fall in love with him coz he’s hot==im in love with him because it’s just not boring to be with him. i am myself when im with him. with the other most guys i dated, im always the really sweet girl..all sweet..boring..but with him, i can be myself skit..die tempat i utk bermanja, mengada2, marah, nangis, ketawa, mengadu dan lain2..n i sux at mandarin and my family wud scold me “cina tak tau ckp cina” ah, blah la tuh. im learning now. eh, i dh tetukar topik la weyh. hmm, i sygkan u sgt Man..i love you sgt. semoga kite dpt bersama selagi takdir membenarkannye. semoga syg pun same
I faced the same problem with u,i hope i cn with my syg 4ever jg..Hehhe..Hope u too..
im malay and if possible would love to marry to other races specially chinese.. but its close to impossible here in malaysia for each races to get mix to the next step i think..
Well Said K-E… I’ve always been curious is it juz the colour of the skin that attracts Malays guys to chinese girls? I’m an Indian/Eurasian girl who’s been having this crazy crush on this Malay guy for years. But he’s mentioned many times that he’s into Chinese girls only… it’s heartbreaking to hear him say so. Don’t know if I should give it a shot and ask him out, maybe his perception will change….
The only problem about this is ; religion.Malay and Chinese couples will face this issue,and it is inevitable.Once this problem is taken care of,there should be no problem at all to be together.
I’m a Malay myself.I prefer chinese girl than malays.It’s weird enough,but I find it because I have a chinese blood runs through my veins.I despise malays with attitude like in “Bohsia” film,and I hate the film itself.
I got myself a chinese girl before,and broke up because of the issue as I stated above.It pains me,but it’s just normal,don’t you think?Unless they commit to the end,there’s no way for the relationship to success.
I wonder.Maybe I’m looking for someone here?Someone I WANT to know? ;-)
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hai, i attracted to these topic when was surfing te nets for an hour ago, erm im malay + chinese + jawa….i myself comes from big family that is full with inter racial marriage (is the term rite?) , i have realtives that is pure chinese, some is pure malays, some like us malay + mix chinese and many other (except, so far as i concern there is no marriage with indian yet), personally i have the taste that more to chinese, hehe, dun know, maybe my look is similar to them, bt mostly, i prefer white skin people,kawaii, nice hair type and hair style, thats y my tendency is more to chinese….haha
Well well well where to begin?
The Muslims have an interesting story that in the beginning God told the angels and jinn to bow down before Adam, and it says they ALL bowed EXCEPT Iblis. When Iblis was rhetorically asked why he would not bow down. Iblis replied saying ‘Adam is made from DARK clay’.
Thus the first sin according to Islam and Muslims is the sin of racism or pride of one’s origin over that of another.
Even if one looks at the Ka’bah in Meccah the Muslims kiss a black stone. Why a black stone? There is allot of history to it that is not understood even by Muslims themselves.
One of Abarhams wives was called Hajar (which means stone) and she was an African Hebrew woman. THe black stone is called Hajar al aswad (the black stone)
and the facts are this if we remove racial and cultural barriers and we let everyone on this earth have sex freely, the future would look like mixture between Black Africans and Chinese. Those are the facts.
I’m telling you this because Race and Religion is sensitive and we need to ask why?
1) Every where European’s went they colonized and they asked the native people to become Christians and worship a Caucasian deity with blue eyes named Jesus.
2) When the Aryans (Aryan, Iran, Iranians) invaded N India they set up the caste system the original Floridians (dark skin people) were at the bottom of the caste and a great number of the priest were fair skinned than of course bollywood drives home the point.
As does the Suria channel that white is superior and more beautiful. You don’t find allot of dark skinned actors and actress in either bollywood or the Suria channel. All of these things have a huge psychological impact upon the individual.
There is actually no such thing as the “Malay race” just like in Singapore there is no such thing as the “chinese race” or “indian race” as someone pointed out the Malay are a collection of peoples bugis, boyanese, javanese even of chinese, arab and indian extraction who have amalgamated and became the “Malay”. The same with the Chinese the hokien, hawkah, hainnanese (who are more related to the japanese and koreans), the teochew ect are a collection of tribes that merged.
Just like there is no such thing as the Indian race it’s a flat lie and a propaganda piece to put people into neat little compartments.
Now to the dating issue as such. I will use the words ‘Malay’, ‘Indian’ and ‘Chinese’ in a general context. Now the real reason Malay boys do not date Malay girls is because if they have sex and their is an accident like a pregnancy etc their culture and religion prevents them from making a commitment.
Most Chinese parents do not like the idea of their daughter converting to Islam. Infact most Chinese girls dating Malay boys don’t like the idea unless it’s “cultural Islam” which the majority of the Malays practice any way.
If a Malay boy takes the virginity of a Malay girl or makes her pregnant and this is found out he is almost forced to ‘shape up’ or ‘take responsibility’ immediately. this is actually a safeguard for the Malay ladies.
Next the Malays are not under attack but Islam is under attack and because the Malays are primarily Muslims an organization was set up to ‘retard’ their knowledge of Islam. That organization is called “MUIS” it’s sole objective is to allow Muslims to get married and to be buried THATS IT!
So what has happend is they have created a cultural Islam. So actually it makes no sense for a person to convert to Islam when that Malay girl or boy does not even practice the religion themself. How many of you actually get up at 5:30 a.m every day and pray? I thought so! How many of you pray during fasting month?
So what happens is a sort of hypocricy where the Malay wants you to convert to Islam but the Malay does not wish to practice the religion. They will also force you into many practices that have nothing to do with Islam like the following.
1) changing your name
2) wearing malay clothing
3) for men getting circumcised. etc. what they want is for the cute chinese girl or the handsome matsaleh to wear the traditonal dress make babies don’t question the status quo and just shut the hell up!
They practice a cultural Islam not a true and real Islam. And I say that with 100% respect and it’s really not their fault because their leaders and Imams have systematically refused to share the true message of Islam with the Non Muslims in Singapore.
The establishment is racist to the core! You don’t see the United States importing more Caucasians from America to ‘top up’ the population do you? Know because America is ONE NATION! Unfortunately Singapore is three nations inside of one nation. So if there are too many Malays they will import more Chinese. to ‘top up’. IF you were truly one nation it shouldn’t matter which race is more dominant should it?
Also why can’t madrassah students serve in the military? But Catholic students can? Why can’t a Malay be a fighter pilot? Cause you question his loyalty to his country.
Those of you who can should read the book ‘SINGAPORE IN THE MALAY WORLD” this is written by Yusuf Ishaq’s niece btw he was Your first president. And it shows how the Malay people have been systematically destroyed and dumb down.
I guarantee you many Malays will be offended by this and I’m not trying to offend you I’m trying to wake your ass up! If I ask any Malay in Singapore about their past their history they don’t know anything about it.
The old saying goes “if you don’t know your past you won’t know your future!”
Plus the Malays are generally concerned about preserving their culture their baju’s and their snack cakes but they don’t care about preserving Islam.
None of the marriage counseling courses in Singapore talk to young people about Islam none of them! It’s all secularized.
This idea of 10000 dollars for Miskawn given to the father and mother in law it’s cultural it’s not Islamic.
The idea of having a huge mahr given to the wife and loud parties under the blocks blasting bollywood songs that’s cultural too it’s not Islamic.
It’s not about the real issues. The reason why the Malay boys and girls are not interested in each other is a false sense of who they are has been created and they have no idea who they are…. some of them are emo some are gangsta some are this and some of that cause they are looking for IDENTITY and not just them the Chinese and Indian too…
and unless you ask yourself who and what you are you will always end up in circles.
Interesting to read all the half baked comments on race and interracial marriage from Malaysians with the same mentality and highly overrated SPM educational background. Blame or Thank God for the internet age we will forever have to put up with nincompoops and their ad-hominem blogs! Reading from your ignorant blog even a blind man will have no difficulty understanding that you are a direct product of an education system that leaves much to be desired because even people with very basic or no education at all are aware that using Japan as an example of resistance to inter racial marriage is a fallacy because, many of the Japanese people themselves are products of mixed race marriages / casual coupling. Back in history and to date the Japanese government has always encouraged mixed race marriage in their effort to improve the physical features of the Japanese people. Japan has the most advanced system of any nation in the world that recognizes and extends PR status to all foreigners married to Japanese women after three years of proven marital fidelity. Even the US cannot boast of that kind of system because you only get your PR (green card) after 5 years and sometimes it is denied for unexplained reasons. Back in history Japanese women used to travel to Korea and China to bed with select Korean and Chinese men in their effort to have good looking children. It is no secret that the Japanese also encourage their women to bed with Caucasians. Fast forward to the present and again it is a very well known fact and yet the general population in Malaysia are still clueless and living in the Dark Age. On first impression one will think that Malaysia is a vibrant and thriving country when one see the PETRONAS tower and some other landmark structures in the country but upon interacting with the average Malaysian on the street most foreigner’s will become shocked at how unpolished and rusted the mentality of the average Malaysian is. However since your country and most of your live in a borderline state mired in the transition of struggling to dig out of a mentality that belongs in the gulag! So much so for the all the crap I read about Malay supremacy! Supremacy in what? Take my advice and go back to school. I REALLY WONDER IF MALAYSIANS REALLY DO UNDERSTAND “ISLAM” THE RELIGION THEY CLAIM AS AN INTEGRAL CORNERSTONE OF THEIR CULTURAL IDENTITY! Do you kids get it? Hmmm, I doubt it. Malaysia WILL NEVER be as developed as Japan, Korea, China, Singapore, Hong-Kong, Taiwan, and let me add Cambodia and Vietnam and all the other cultures and countries you consider lesser. Uncle Sha , Hidya, and Yanni you all come from a flawed mind set wake up and smell what’s cooking the world is moving on.. Clear your brains of all the smut! By the way who among you is really of PURE UNDILUTED MALAY BLOOD LINE? Go ask your mama and Papa about the truth and go look back into your history. And what does being Malay really mean? Is there anything to be historically proud about except for all history that you have been brainwashed with in school. If you are a college educated, SPM, first school leaving certificate holder or having zero education you should be ashamed of yourself Uncle sha, Hidaya, and Yanni of course these are not real names judging by the fact that the internet and blogging has become the #1 source for misinformation and outlandish divisive postings!
hey, what are the differences and similarities between Malays and Arabs? Curious to know!!!
andand, are singaporean malays treated differently in malaysia? like becoming second-class citizens?
Well..i m the chinese gal,and i fall in love with a maly boy..since the CLOSE MINDED is still ..it’s hard 2 let me express my feeling wif my family.. i born frm Malaysia,I nvr togh dat i will fall in love wif him,malay guy..and i hate malays b4 ,Nw..diffrent..we r sweet..2gether…but i clearly noe dat…canot forver..DIFFRENT RACE..=(..Honey,Please,I Don’t want leave u……(aq CINTA ko,syg//)
LoL,go get him back if you’re serious.Cast aside anything else if you really want that person.
That is,if you’re dead serious about it.
I just reckon how many Chinese girls will prefer to date Malay guys, given the general social economic status and religious factor. While some of you here suggested that malay guys don’t prefer Malay girl, the fact seems like the other way round. Malay women has much more success in climbing the social ladder compare with Malay men, whom the vast majority are still stuck as blue collar workers, low rank officer, or low level admin workers. It is this pool of Malay women who have difficulties in finding a Malay men who is up to their standard. It is well known in the dating scene here that girls go for 5c. To be frank how many percentage of the Malay men here even have 1c.
Hi, I’m a Malay who had been dating difference races. I think the dilemma for Malay like me in Singapore (both men and women) is, when you have reach a certain level of career and financial success, the pool of choice has become so small if we want to stick to our Own race. People mostly will prefer people with similar educational and financial background. Especially for the few malays that had made it in the financial sector, our circle of friends comprise mostly of non-Malay. Therefore I believe a lot of time it is a matter of circumstances rather than a matter of choice.
hi. Im 18 yrold Malay boy, and im in a relationship with a Chinese girl 16 yrs of age. We’ve been dating fr 4 years. We broke up a few months back because her mother didnt approve us of being together, saying we’re too young, im Malay, and tht we’re too serious. we remain friends fr awhile, but i told her i could’nt do it. I left for a month, and she came back running. After that, we came to conclude that we are nt part of a normal high school love story, this was something else.
Yes, true, we are young. I quote from her, “We are too young to feel this way fr one another.”. I agree. Metaphorically speaking, when you walk down Petaling Street, and you come upon a shirt that you really want, you are certain, this is what you want, you wont regret. Beside you, your friend, telling you to walk further down the street. If you do, you cant turn back. What would you do? Do you buy the shirt because you like it and it suits you, or buy a different shirt because it suits yr friend?
Ok i like Chinese girls. Its not because of the socio economic factor, not upgrading status, not pool of choice, not style, not blah blah. I like Chinese girls because im just attracted to them. So Bite me!
hey there…well i guess its about time someone touches on this sort of issue..well being in singapore is pretty hard for malays i guess…im eurasian malay…my dads malay and my mums eurasian…
for me ive grown up dating a few races and now am settling down with a chinese girl and honestly think that its alright…it doesnt mean an “upgrade” because so what if you are dating a chinese girl or malay girl..we are all humans..our hearts have their own feelings..betul? to be honest, there are a lot of malay boys and guys who would rather date and marry their own race, because its honestly pretty hard for someone from the outside to get accepted into a malay family…many traditional families wouldnt like it…but hey singapore is a multi-racial country..so yeah..lets just mix…whats important is that you DONT FORGET YOUR ROOTS…
i dontthink cinese girls like malay guys. i only see them with indian guys instead
People,people.. No matter what race of interracial r’ship/marriage we’re talking about it all goes down to one thing. Compatibility.
And i think no matter whichever race u prefer to date or are going out with u cant shut people’s mouth. I’m a mixed malay and im engaged to a white man. Never once do i see him as someone thats superior than any other race and its totally not about me wanting to be the so-called ‘upper class malay’. But unfortunately when we’re out people tend to see us,especially me, in that sense..no matter if we’re in singapore or malaysia. Its stereotype thinking.
If im not compatible with him, why would i be with him anyway..right? I think those people that chose to be with other races just because that he/she wants to be with someone who is not the same race as u are or want to be in the ‘upper class’ or just feel the need to ‘fit in’ is really pathetic and i feel sad for those people.
Also, i feel that one’s family background plays a part too. Just to give an eg, for mine.. my family has a lot of interracial r’ship/marriage. There are married with indian,chinese,caucasian,japanese,african american. And my sis has all along been with chinese guys and me ive been with malays, arabs, indians, latinos and caucasians. I have to say though..i honestly prefer malay guys and i would like to get married to one but the problem with them is, they think from where im coming from..im too modern and they just dont agree with the way i think. Not that im extremely liberal, in fact my family is very conservative even though theres lots of ‘outsiders’.
And i do agree with the one commentor that said even though malay guys are dating other races, the malay girls are MORE likely to marry non malays. Its just the the ‘malay guys’ way of thinking. And i do see that, there are malay guys that if they are with a malay girls they tend to demand much more but if they are with a chinese girl they tend to close one eye on certain things which i think they are being fair to their own race.
For whatever reasons u guys have for dating other races, what matters is ur happiness.
Hello there
That’s nothing wrong to date Chinese girl as long you guys don commit adultery.
I don’t really know why chinese girls prefer malay than the chinese boys they see everyday. As a teen girl myself, i see mostly all those chinese man and teen at my age alway are the so called ‘Ah Beng and Ah Seng’ type. Not only that chinese man also love to go to some place to fuck some slutty prositute not caring they have aids or not and at the same time get DRUNK when they reached home. Nearly 40% to 60% are like that. So to my thoughts that why they picked malays. When the chinese women and her malay hunks get married. They have a hybrid offspring that look SUPERB (white brown tanned skin tone, big eyes) and maybe the gorgeous looks that we ever saw. And but to not least, those malay man that you saw everyday are the family type where they care for their wife and children.
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When the chinese women and her malay hunks get married. They have a hybrid offspring that look SUPERB
lol u should study or read genetic reseach on chinese and SEA, or asian.
the mixture between chinese and malay, overtime will look chinese….they already have this mix in china, vietnam, thai, etc.
the chinese are mixture of east asian and southeast asian phenotype
southern chinese genetically closer to SEA: Indonesia, malay, thai, vietnamese, etc
northern chinese is grouped with mongols, korea and japan.
these two phenotype are mixing in china, they created the modern chinese look.
korean is the purest east asian, according to latest genetic research
so if u mix the korean and the indonesian all the time, the result would be chinese.
just look at korean face feature in general:
small eyes, narrow face, narrow nose, small mouth, thin lips.
indonesian feature: big eyes, wide face, wide nose, big mouth, thick lips
now look at the chinese:
bigger eyes than korean, smaller than indonesian, wider face, wide nose,bigger mouth, thicker lips than korean
its not true that the mixture between malay and chinese is superb or create another superb race….lol NO?!
cuz these chinese malay mixed already produce the largest human on earth: the chinese
the result of malay – chinese mixed will be just turn chinese, just look at @ vietnamese they been mixing with chinese for centuries, thy just turning chinese, same with thai
As a Malaysian Indian girl, only now you have realised what our Indian community (at least the women) have noticed years and years if not decades ago with our Indian guys.
Malaysian Indian guys especially upper middle class, highly educated, rich professionals also seem to only date and end up marrying Chinese girls. They don’t like Indian girls for whatever reason. The Chinese girls also seem very intelligent to choose the right type of rich smart Indian men to marry! Such if life.
Im mix thai and malay,but I look a lot like chinese so whenever I go out with my chinese gf,everyone will assume we are chinese couple..that always make me LOL..we are happy couple and going to get married until my parents wont approve of our relationship due to her job as a model,since my mom hates that kind of job..welp,I need to convince other ways to them..wish me luck guys
sorry Sha Malay is not a young race. Please do some research.
Not all inter-racial marriages are equal.
Will never marry a Malay and just about every Chinese I have spoken to feels the same way. I think you like-minded folks are being agreeable with yourselves here.
Don’t think any better of the Malay guy/girl, and feel sorry for Chinese girl/guy. Chinese parents must be heart-broken or helpless in those situations.
When people are young they experiment until they mature in their thinking and they wake up. I use to date a Malay when I was a teenager. Can’t belief how stupid I was.
Anyway, cheers.
Ok one thing for you to consider from the most recent genetic study of asian population…..
http://www.plosone.org/article/info%3Adoi%2F10.1371%2Fjournal.pone.0016338
Chinese are the genetic bridge between northeast asian (japan, korean, mongol) and southeast asian (malay, indonesia, vietnam, cambodia, thai)
among east asian: chinese, japanese and korean
chinese has austronesian or malay’s genes the most, as high as 40% austronesian/malay genes found among chinese in china.
about 1-5% malay/austronesian genes found among japanese
and only 0.05% found among korean
but in terms of physical beauty,
which group that these malay and indonesian people like the most ?
first korean, second, japanese, and they dislike the chinese the most, while chinese inherited their look the most, wide face, wide nose and wide mouth only with small eyes.
one other thing…..
between malay and indonesian which is closer to chinese genetically?
http://www.plosone.org/article/fetchObject.action?uri=info:doi/10.1371/journal.pone.0016338.t001&representation=PNG_M
the INDONESIAN!
but Indonesian treated and discriminated chinese more than malays do, remember the anti chinese riot in indonesia few years ago……..
if you read and study all these genetic study, you’ll figure out what’s going on….