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		<title>By: Naggs</title>
		<link>http://www.sha.tc/singapore/malays-dysfunctional-families-ite-dropouts#comment-54183</link>
		<dc:creator>Naggs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Sep 2010 06:34:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think drop outs exist in all races. Immigration of high profile chinese and indians could have made their races look more enticing than the Malay population.When the ambitious Chinese/Indians and non ambitious chinese/indians get together,there is a possibility for more inter-racial motivation.

 I think we ought to scrutinize such news than to accept them the way the media portrays.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think drop outs exist in all races. Immigration of high profile chinese and indians could have made their races look more enticing than the Malay population.When the ambitious Chinese/Indians and non ambitious chinese/indians get together,there is a possibility for more inter-racial motivation.</p>
<p> I think we ought to scrutinize such news than to accept them the way the media portrays.</p>
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		<title>By: setiakasih</title>
		<link>http://www.sha.tc/singapore/malays-dysfunctional-families-ite-dropouts#comment-51822</link>
		<dc:creator>setiakasih</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jan 2010 05:23:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi...
I think there is sthg wrong in the educational systems.
They are focusing on producing &#039;robots&#039; and &#039;machines&#039; to generate income for the country.
I am not saying that generation the government&#039;s economics is no good. Just, it kills the human inside.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi&#8230;<br />
I think there is sthg wrong in the educational systems.<br />
They are focusing on producing &#8216;robots&#8217; and &#8216;machines&#8217; to generate income for the country.<br />
I am not saying that generation the government&#8217;s economics is no good. Just, it kills the human inside.</p>
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		<title>By: tun fatimah</title>
		<link>http://www.sha.tc/singapore/malays-dysfunctional-families-ite-dropouts#comment-51759</link>
		<dc:creator>tun fatimah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Dec 2009 05:17:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>t the social media e.g. has to play a part by airing more educational shows instead of those overseas drama series.  i&#039;m sick of watching show with broken families and they are such a waste of resources.  we have seen and read enough.  now show us how we could be a good citizen.  if you see malaysia tv shows now, they have begun airing documentary shows in english and less entertainment now.  ministers please walk the talk.  malays we really don&#039;t have much time.  previously we need to compete with chinese and indians for jobs...now its foreign talent who is skilled e.g. nurses and technicians...so wake up, get some skill and quit watching those uneducational shows ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>t the social media e.g. has to play a part by airing more educational shows instead of those overseas drama series.  i&#8217;m sick of watching show with broken families and they are such a waste of resources.  we have seen and read enough.  now show us how we could be a good citizen.  if you see malaysia tv shows now, they have begun airing documentary shows in english and less entertainment now.  ministers please walk the talk.  malays we really don&#8217;t have much time.  previously we need to compete with chinese and indians for jobs&#8230;now its foreign talent who is skilled e.g. nurses and technicians&#8230;so wake up, get some skill and quit watching those uneducational shows &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: makchique</title>
		<link>http://www.sha.tc/singapore/malays-dysfunctional-families-ite-dropouts#comment-51737</link>
		<dc:creator>makchique</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Dec 2009 06:36:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>salam &amp; thank you to Spectic Minah
for commenting on my comment *lol*

Minah adik ku
‘FAIR’ is just not happening in real life. Tell me, if it is fair for women to have multiple functions? Of that a father and a mother, when men failed to assume their responsibilies as father/man/leader of the house, providing and protecting his family?

Listen to your mom, if happiness is what you’re looking for, but no one can guarantee that will happened, you have to make it happened for yourself. Start with the righteous man. My old man used to tell me, lihat lah lelaki pd solat nya, judge a man by his solah.
21 years down the road, I realized how true he is. Harta, kita bolih cari, iman &amp; taqwa tak bolih di jual beli. Rosak iman=hilang taqwa=runtuh diri=runtuh keluarga=runtuh masyarakat=runtuh lah Negara.

We, women have to work extra hard at keeping the family intact. Tell me if that is fair? But we women always do our best, we make it right for the men, and who make things right for us? nobody, no one. just us. do you think that is fair? what is fair? but why are we doing it? it is bcos for the love of the family, our children, we took upon that responsibility when the men hv failed themselve. bukan suatu tugas mudah bagi wanita, tanggunjawab keluarga ada lah hak mutlak kedua dua pihak, tapi apa yg banyak kita lihat pd hari ini, tugas ini semua di pikul oleh kaum wanita. kemana pergi lelaki-lelaki yg beriman?

Bear in mind, there’s no such thing as live happily ever after in life, don’t listen to fairy tales, we parent should stop telling and reading those non sense to our children. Man, start being a man, like wise, woman should stick to womanly role. Kita jangan melangar fitrah, nak switch role whatever non sense, tu semua punya kerosakan diri=keluarga=masyrakat=Negara.

Terima kasih lah yer! Pada uncla sha yg dah bagi kami peluang utk bagi pendapat.

Saya mohon maaf jika terkasar bahasa.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>salam &amp; thank you to Spectic Minah<br />
for commenting on my comment *lol*</p>
<p>Minah adik ku<br />
‘FAIR’ is just not happening in real life. Tell me, if it is fair for women to have multiple functions? Of that a father and a mother, when men failed to assume their responsibilies as father/man/leader of the house, providing and protecting his family?</p>
<p>Listen to your mom, if happiness is what you’re looking for, but no one can guarantee that will happened, you have to make it happened for yourself. Start with the righteous man. My old man used to tell me, lihat lah lelaki pd solat nya, judge a man by his solah.<br />
21 years down the road, I realized how true he is. Harta, kita bolih cari, iman &amp; taqwa tak bolih di jual beli. Rosak iman=hilang taqwa=runtuh diri=runtuh keluarga=runtuh masyarakat=runtuh lah Negara.</p>
<p>We, women have to work extra hard at keeping the family intact. Tell me if that is fair? But we women always do our best, we make it right for the men, and who make things right for us? nobody, no one. just us. do you think that is fair? what is fair? but why are we doing it? it is bcos for the love of the family, our children, we took upon that responsibility when the men hv failed themselve. bukan suatu tugas mudah bagi wanita, tanggunjawab keluarga ada lah hak mutlak kedua dua pihak, tapi apa yg banyak kita lihat pd hari ini, tugas ini semua di pikul oleh kaum wanita. kemana pergi lelaki-lelaki yg beriman?</p>
<p>Bear in mind, there’s no such thing as live happily ever after in life, don’t listen to fairy tales, we parent should stop telling and reading those non sense to our children. Man, start being a man, like wise, woman should stick to womanly role. Kita jangan melangar fitrah, nak switch role whatever non sense, tu semua punya kerosakan diri=keluarga=masyrakat=Negara.</p>
<p>Terima kasih lah yer! Pada uncla sha yg dah bagi kami peluang utk bagi pendapat.</p>
<p>Saya mohon maaf jika terkasar bahasa.</p>
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		<title>By: Sceptic Minah</title>
		<link>http://www.sha.tc/singapore/malays-dysfunctional-families-ite-dropouts#comment-51723</link>
		<dc:creator>Sceptic Minah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Dec 2009 13:43:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maaf ya makchique, 

Tapi saya rasa saya kurang setuju bahawa it&#039;s just the men who have failed. 

Teringatkan pulak mak saya, yang akan selalu mengomel to my brother &quot;kau tu lelaki, betulkan diri sikit. Nanti dah besar, kahwin, macam mana nak jadi imam?&quot; or to me for that matter &quot;nak cari laki, cari yang betul-betul. Ada agama, tahu sembahyang, baca quran&quot; and yada yada the list goes on. Benar, Islam meletakkan tanggungjawab memimpin keluarga ke atas bahu kaum lelaki. 

But mackhique, as you said, &quot;ramai lelaki, suami hari ini gagal menjadi contoh baik.&quot; Abih macamana, does that mean this ruins all chances for single ladies to have a happily blessed marriage life sehingga hayat dikandung badan?

No what... Not fair what... The girls also must prepare themselves, more so now than ever, if really benar bahawa lelaki sekarang gagal menunjukkan contoh yang baik. I think it is regardless of whether you are a lady or man. Kedua-kedua ada peranan, malah, kerana perubahan zaman semakin mencabar, we have have to play the other gender&#039;s role. 

Tapi saya setuju, kita harus kembali mencari jalan yang lurus, walaupun ke perit mana pun. At least we try, we cuba. 

Wallahualam.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maaf ya makchique, </p>
<p>Tapi saya rasa saya kurang setuju bahawa it&#8217;s just the men who have failed. </p>
<p>Teringatkan pulak mak saya, yang akan selalu mengomel to my brother &#8220;kau tu lelaki, betulkan diri sikit. Nanti dah besar, kahwin, macam mana nak jadi imam?&#8221; or to me for that matter &#8220;nak cari laki, cari yang betul-betul. Ada agama, tahu sembahyang, baca quran&#8221; and yada yada the list goes on. Benar, Islam meletakkan tanggungjawab memimpin keluarga ke atas bahu kaum lelaki. </p>
<p>But mackhique, as you said, &#8220;ramai lelaki, suami hari ini gagal menjadi contoh baik.&#8221; Abih macamana, does that mean this ruins all chances for single ladies to have a happily blessed marriage life sehingga hayat dikandung badan?</p>
<p>No what&#8230; Not fair what&#8230; The girls also must prepare themselves, more so now than ever, if really benar bahawa lelaki sekarang gagal menunjukkan contoh yang baik. I think it is regardless of whether you are a lady or man. Kedua-kedua ada peranan, malah, kerana perubahan zaman semakin mencabar, we have have to play the other gender&#8217;s role. </p>
<p>Tapi saya setuju, kita harus kembali mencari jalan yang lurus, walaupun ke perit mana pun. At least we try, we cuba. </p>
<p>Wallahualam.</p>
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		<title>By: Sceptic Minah</title>
		<link>http://www.sha.tc/singapore/malays-dysfunctional-families-ite-dropouts#comment-51722</link>
		<dc:creator>Sceptic Minah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Dec 2009 13:26:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Salams all, 

Coincidentally, I am taking a couple of minutes break from writing an &#039;article&#039; on this, when I stumbled upon your website Uncle Sha. For the past few days, I&#039;ve been conducting interviews with academics, social activists, friends, families with regards to this issue. 

I must say - the longer and deeper I dwell into this, the more complex it gets. And of course, I let cynicism get the better of me. 

There&#039;s been a lot of blame game, finger pointing and talk about how little the malay leaders/organisations are tackling this issue, not doing enough etc. Regardless of how lousy or well they have done, the numerous amount of programs being launched, PERSONALLY, I feel that that the change has to come from within the individual. Sure, it helps to have external help - be it motivation, support financially and emotionally. But at the end of the day, one has got to WANT THE CHANGE. Simply, for the betterment of their lives and the people around them. Also, I feel the lack of sprituality - and I just don&#039;t mean being religious - is one of the contributing factors to these problems.

This is just my 20 sen worth of thoughts. 

So, what do you all think? Whose responsibility does it become when the Malays are overpresented in a bad light?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Salams all, </p>
<p>Coincidentally, I am taking a couple of minutes break from writing an &#8216;article&#8217; on this, when I stumbled upon your website Uncle Sha. For the past few days, I&#8217;ve been conducting interviews with academics, social activists, friends, families with regards to this issue. </p>
<p>I must say &#8211; the longer and deeper I dwell into this, the more complex it gets. And of course, I let cynicism get the better of me. </p>
<p>There&#8217;s been a lot of blame game, finger pointing and talk about how little the malay leaders/organisations are tackling this issue, not doing enough etc. Regardless of how lousy or well they have done, the numerous amount of programs being launched, PERSONALLY, I feel that that the change has to come from within the individual. Sure, it helps to have external help &#8211; be it motivation, support financially and emotionally. But at the end of the day, one has got to WANT THE CHANGE. Simply, for the betterment of their lives and the people around them. Also, I feel the lack of sprituality &#8211; and I just don&#8217;t mean being religious &#8211; is one of the contributing factors to these problems.</p>
<p>This is just my 20 sen worth of thoughts. </p>
<p>So, what do you all think? Whose responsibility does it become when the Malays are overpresented in a bad light?</p>
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		<title>By: shafa</title>
		<link>http://www.sha.tc/singapore/malays-dysfunctional-families-ite-dropouts#comment-51719</link>
		<dc:creator>shafa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Dec 2009 08:35:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hmmmm... nice topic to ponder on... a few days ago... i had a talk with one of my chinese frens and talking to her about how malays and chinese behave... she give me examples of how to a chinese &quot;face&quot; value is very important to a chinese... to the xtent tt they have to have the best and will lose face if they lose out... i didnt really get her meaning until i was eating outside a few days ago and was sitting next to this chinese family.... welll.. nothing unusual in their discussion... BUT there was one sentence tt makes me sit up n really listen... when i overheard the son telling the father... &quot;Pa, i think after i finishd NS, i muz further my studies already... u r right... i can really see the others looking dwn on me already when i told them i didnt get to the university....&quot;... n well... it juz gt me thinking.... 

i guess thats explain the vast differences in the population of the chinese and malays in higher education... For one.. the malays like u have mentioned... are kinda of laid back.... which is kinda sad cos the propelling motivation in pursuing higher eduction seems to be lacking for them unlike the chinese population whom i believes the reason why they r so adamant to pursue further is &quot;face value&quot; and not losing out to others... well.. which is sad and at the same time a gd thing... cos at least there&#039;s a propelling factor that is pushing them forward for higher achievements... even if the interest is not there... 

Well...although as times goes by i can see tt more malays are much more motivate to pursue higher education... bt at the same time i can see that the grp tt they mixes with mostly consists of chinese... maybe i m wrong... bt most of the time.. it seems to be tt way.... 

I guess the only way one can hope tt the younger malay generations be more motivated is to start frm young.... 

bt at the same time too... if everyone arounds you are all graduates... wats there left for the lowly skilled workers.... - time to called in the foreign workers??? :P n causing the influx of foreign workers... sometimes i wonder who to blame for the influx of foreign workers when the locals are all busy chasing for a highly paid and highly ranked jobs.... 

i dun knw.. there seems to be lots of qns on my mind.... :P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hmmmm&#8230; nice topic to ponder on&#8230; a few days ago&#8230; i had a talk with one of my chinese frens and talking to her about how malays and chinese behave&#8230; she give me examples of how to a chinese &#8220;face&#8221; value is very important to a chinese&#8230; to the xtent tt they have to have the best and will lose face if they lose out&#8230; i didnt really get her meaning until i was eating outside a few days ago and was sitting next to this chinese family&#8230;. welll.. nothing unusual in their discussion&#8230; BUT there was one sentence tt makes me sit up n really listen&#8230; when i overheard the son telling the father&#8230; &#8220;Pa, i think after i finishd NS, i muz further my studies already&#8230; u r right&#8230; i can really see the others looking dwn on me already when i told them i didnt get to the university&#8230;.&#8221;&#8230; n well&#8230; it juz gt me thinking&#8230;. </p>
<p>i guess thats explain the vast differences in the population of the chinese and malays in higher education&#8230; For one.. the malays like u have mentioned&#8230; are kinda of laid back&#8230;. which is kinda sad cos the propelling motivation in pursuing higher eduction seems to be lacking for them unlike the chinese population whom i believes the reason why they r so adamant to pursue further is &#8220;face value&#8221; and not losing out to others&#8230; well.. which is sad and at the same time a gd thing&#8230; cos at least there&#8217;s a propelling factor that is pushing them forward for higher achievements&#8230; even if the interest is not there&#8230; </p>
<p>Well&#8230;although as times goes by i can see tt more malays are much more motivate to pursue higher education&#8230; bt at the same time i can see that the grp tt they mixes with mostly consists of chinese&#8230; maybe i m wrong&#8230; bt most of the time.. it seems to be tt way&#8230;. </p>
<p>I guess the only way one can hope tt the younger malay generations be more motivated is to start frm young&#8230;. </p>
<p>bt at the same time too&#8230; if everyone arounds you are all graduates&#8230; wats there left for the lowly skilled workers&#8230;. &#8211; time to called in the foreign workers??? :P n causing the influx of foreign workers&#8230; sometimes i wonder who to blame for the influx of foreign workers when the locals are all busy chasing for a highly paid and highly ranked jobs&#8230;. </p>
<p>i dun knw.. there seems to be lots of qns on my mind&#8230;. :P</p>
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		<title>By: Gaylord</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gaylord</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Dec 2009 05:42:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the clarification UncleSha.

Merry Xmas to one and all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the clarification UncleSha.</p>
<p>Merry Xmas to one and all.</p>
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		<title>By: Arif</title>
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		<dc:creator>Arif</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Dec 2009 01:08:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Uncle Sha, sorry man for getting people confuse on our names. I will go by this name now. Gaylord I hold no grudge against u but your views are flawed. Can u seriously say that Chinese or Indian kids will go out of their way to befriend Malay kids? Seriously? What u say about the Malay kids mirrors the attitude of the other races. I just think its human nature to stick with your own kind heck even animals do that. As for the laid back attitude it&#039;s a personal choice. The only disease Science can never cure is laziness. U have lazy Malay, Chinese and Indian people. Don&#039;t blame the race, blame humanity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Uncle Sha, sorry man for getting people confuse on our names. I will go by this name now. Gaylord I hold no grudge against u but your views are flawed. Can u seriously say that Chinese or Indian kids will go out of their way to befriend Malay kids? Seriously? What u say about the Malay kids mirrors the attitude of the other races. I just think its human nature to stick with your own kind heck even animals do that. As for the laid back attitude it&#8217;s a personal choice. The only disease Science can never cure is laziness. U have lazy Malay, Chinese and Indian people. Don&#8217;t blame the race, blame humanity.</p>
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		<title>By: Uncle Sha</title>
		<link>http://www.sha.tc/singapore/malays-dysfunctional-families-ite-dropouts#comment-51712</link>
		<dc:creator>Uncle Sha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Dec 2009 13:35:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>By the way &lt;strong&gt;Sha&lt;/strong&gt; who&#039;s commenting in this entry, is different from me, &lt;strong&gt;Uncle Sha&lt;/strong&gt;, the blog owner and author of this entry.

Just wanna clear things up, so as there&#039;s no confusion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By the way <strong>Sha</strong> who&#8217;s commenting in this entry, is different from me, <strong>Uncle Sha</strong>, the blog owner and author of this entry.</p>
<p>Just wanna clear things up, so as there&#8217;s no confusion.</p>
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